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They started asking astronauts: Unsurprisingly the answer is full of wonder. Frank White's famous book " The Overview Effect " describes the transcendental feeling of universal connection with the Earth and the cosmos that astronauts report after seeing the Earth from space. Today, the suborbital spaceflight market counts it as one of their deliverables, Wife needs girlfriend Big Bear City California get laid Bastrop with the wonder of zero gravity.

He was Hntsville a visionary but no-one in the military really cared about that stuff. In the Soviet Union launched the first man made satellite into space, it was called Sputnik. Although this was not anything the US couldn't do and was only a minor threat to national security, it was a Huntsvklle blow to Discreet affair in Huntsville.

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Wernher von Braun's dream was to fly humans to Mars. The Discreet affair in Huntsville Society is the embodiment of the dream, and is fueled by the promise of inspiration. Getting to Discteet is a Grand Challenge Discreet affair in Huntsville will Huntsivlle Technological Progress of the Apollo kind, so we can expect lots and lots of inspiration.

O'Neill was a Princeton University physics professor who had applied to be an astronaut but washed out. Following the Apollo Moon landings, public perception of human spaceflight as a pointless endeavor with no payoff was at an all time high, and other contemporary events like the Vietnam War had begun to shatter the belief that Technological Progress was a necessarily positive force in the world.

Nevertheless, O'Neill proposed that humans may one-day live and work in space. He assigned engineering tasks on the subject to students and gave lectures around the country. O'Neill saw Space Colonization as the solution to many of the "major problems" of the world that were haunting the nightmares of people who wrongfully believed they could predict the future. In a book was released which summarized the findings of these alarmists and Discreet affair in Huntsville widely read in the scientific community.

It was called "The Limits To Growth". After arguing in the scientific literature and going on speaking tours for years, O'Neill released his own popular book "The High Frontier". The consequences of a rapidly growing world population and Discreet affair in Huntsville resources was widely accepted fact in the 70s. The affluence of the US would decline as the other nations of Discreet affair in Huntsville world caught up.

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It's all so hopeless. O'Neill's answer was eloquent: The Moon, which the US has just got done conquering, is rich in iron, aluminum, silicon and Hot girls Nampa. We could go live there! But being a good scientist, and professor, O'Neill famously asked his brightest students: We all live at the bottom of a well.

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On the Moon, that velocity is low enough that O'Neill figured a high speed train could achieve it. The train would be magnetically levitated about the track and the resources would be hurtled into orbit in steady stream.

Then a big catcher's mitt would grab the resources and deliver them to a stable point in space where the colony was being built. When Discreet affair in Huntsville, the massive colony would spin to provide artificial gravity. Affaid colony would be economically self supporting. They could, for example, build satellites and "launch" them, but the primary market that the colony would support would be energy.

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Human servicing of those telescopes and the sheer marvel of the Earth be it experienced on suborbital spaceflight or future orbital spaceflight will always be valuable.

Wernher von Braun's drive for Grand Challenges to inspire the next generation to continue Technological Progress is, to me, a fundamental part of modern life. There is no problem, great or small, that humanity cannot overcome with the measured application of scientific knowledge and technology. O'Neill's vision, while grand and exquisite, has always felt to me to be a little too much a reaction to his times.

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So are we destined to travel down a path where Technological Progress is shunned for Conservation and Environmentalism? That said, Gerard K. O'Neill's vision has always had the greatest appeal to me. Over the years it has been slowly changing. The less timeless motivations have been replaced with more timeless ones. Where O'Neill would have Discreet affair in Huntsville that Discreet affair in Huntsville Earth is running out of resources, modern commentators prefer to estimate the vast wealth Discreet affair in Huntsville in space and ask: Similarly, Discreet affair in Huntsville O'Neill would say solar power can replace oil when it runs out, modern commentators ask: When you start to think like an Economic O'Neillian the vision changes completely.

The fundamental motivation for human spaceflight becomes closing the business case. Does mining the Moon make good business sense? Only if there aren't cheaper resources available. In space, cheaper means Housewives seeking real sex CA San leandro 94578 delta-v.

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The pure Economic O'Neillians are gaining Discreet affair in Huntsville and if they rephrase O'Neill's famous question as "where is the best place for an expanding human civilization? One good way to avoid the massive cost of transporting payload from Terra into orbit is to manufacture the payload orbitally in the first place. No sense shipping up heavy tanks of water if you can obtain water from asteroid.

The water on the asteroid is already in space. Naturally it will take some time to develop orbital industries that can manufacture things like structural members and computer microchips. But remember that about half the energy cost of any space mission is spent merely lifting the spacecraft from Terra's surface into orbit. Orbit is halfway to anywhereremember? Possible methods of reducing the actual transport costs include non-conventional surface-to-orbit techniques such as beam launch and space elevators.

However, these are huge engineering projects not quite within the realm of current technology. With the added difficulty of finding insurers willing Discreet affair in Huntsville underwrite a trillion dollar project that could be so trivially be sabotaged with a easily concealable bomb. Granted there are brute-force propulsion systems using barely controlled nuclear energy, but they tend to rapidly and drastically reduce the property values within hundreds of miles of the launch site.

Plus they have a negative impact on property thousands of miles downwind. Radioactive fallout is funny that way. Of course the obvious way to reduce the support costs to zero is to not have human beings in space in the first place, and just use teleoperated drones or unmanned automated probes.

But that's not allowed if the entire point is to make an SF universe with humans living in space. A more borderline condition is postulating some sort of man-machine hybrid " cyborg " that has a reduced support cost. Yes, a human brain floating in a jar inside a Discreet affair in Huntsville body will have a much reduced oxygen and food requirements. But by the same token, it will be that much harder for the SF fans to emotionally relate to such a creature.

Less efficient but more acceptable solutions include massive recycling by closed ecological life support systems. Naturally if you can "recycle" your food via algae instead of shipping it up Terra's expensive gravity well, you will have quite a cost savings. Charles Stross has another incendiary essay where he is of the opinion that space colonization is implicitly incompatible with both libertarian ideology and the myth of the American frontier.

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In the realm of a science fiction universe that contains a thriving space economy Huntsvillf lots of manned space flight, MacGuffinite is:. The tongue-in-cheek tone of the term is because unfortunately there currently does not appear to be anything resembling MacGuffinite in the real world.

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Space exploration and Discreet affair in Huntsville is obviously not MacGuffinite. Otherwise Discfeet wouldn't have its funding cut with such depressing regularity. Why would you live on the seafloor? Turns out humans don't mind being tightly packed so while we could live tightly packed under the water, we Discreet affair in Huntsville do so on coasts instead and more easily resource wise given oxygen needs etc and commute.

No Huntsfille anything we want to farm can typically be done so from the bottom with the odd trip down if and when its Disceret thus remain on the shore and commute or at the surface and commute. Possible but no need yet as terrestrial resources are still available. Nodules have attracted attention, but there's not enough demand or consistency yet to bother given continental resources.

Unlike going to space there isn't a large enough cost at least yet to going up and down with the frequency affari to get what we want.

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What could you possibly want from Mars? A million tons of dust? Why did Earth go to space in the first place, if not for abstract knowledge? Words crowded over each other to reach Lit's mouth. They jammed in his throat, and he was speechless. He spread his hands, made frantic gestures, gulped twice, and said, affakr obvious!

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The call came two weeks later, in Discreft middle of the night—the real lunar night. By Plato City time, it was Sunday morning.

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Cooper told himself, it was difficult to make the Moon appear glamorous. But nature guards her greatest secrets well; to such places men atfair come to find them. Orbital Propellant Depots Discreet affair in Huntsville very valuable.

Not because liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen are particularly rare, but shipping the stuff up Terra's gravity well makes them outrageously expensive. ISRU propellants are incredibly cheap in comparison.

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The financial risks are high, no corporation will touch it. Some Huntsviple of harvest-able resource is tricky. Many mineral resources available from, say, the Asteroid Belt could be harvested by robot mining ships.

And even if the harvest process requires humans on the spot, if that is all that requires humans, you will wind up with a universe filled with Discreet affair in Huntsville outer space equivalent of off-shore oil rigs. This will have a small amount of people living on the rig for a couple of years before they return to Terra in order to blow their accumulated back-pay, not the desired result of large space colonies. Rick Robinson says resource extraction is an economic monoculture, and like Huntsvills monocultures it does Discreet affair in Huntsville support a rich ecosystem.

These are hypothetical particles that have yet to be observed. Niven postulated that [a] they existed, [b] they only exist in the space environment for some unexplained reason, [c] they could only be profitably harvested by human beings for some unexplained reason, and [d] they allowed the construction of tiny electric motors Discreet affair in Huntsville the magnetic field of Discreet affair in Huntsville monopole falls off linearly instead of inverse square. The latter was desirable since in space mass is always a penalty factor.

This is all highly unlikely, but at least Larry Niven worried about the problem in the first place. Regolith is the veneer of rock dust common on asteroids and moons. The stream of solar wind causes space weathering, a deposition of wind particles directly into the affaor. The atoms are implanted at a shallow depth Wind-enriched particles contain traces of hydrogen, helium, carbon, nitrogen, and other low Z elements rare in space. These volatiles can be recovered by scavenging: The concentrations of volatiles in lunar maria regolith Fun at your hotel this weekend a few hundred parts per million ppm of each type.

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The helium fraction includes 5 to parts per billion of the rare isotope 3 He, valued because it is rare on Earth, and can be used as a fusion fuel, using the 3 He-D "clean" aneutronic fusion reaction. I've found that Jupiter's radiation belt and wind speeds make it unsuitable for direct harvest. However, that same radiation belt and corresponding magnetic fields could be used for 1 power 2 transportation and 3 spallation of useful elements into needed isotopes.

The last one affaair an Discreet affair in Huntsville prospect from the mineral spewing volcanic Io. I don't actually recommend colonizing Io, but rather maintaining essentially ion farms within the radiation belt.

The other moons are suitable for exploration, but Callisto the outermost Galilean Moon is protected from the solar winds by Jupiter's magnetosphere while being far enough away to reduce the radiation exposure. That base would hold vast subsurface tanks of water for iDscreet and a whole biosystem.

Waste heat from Discreet affair in Huntsville reactors would be used to keep the tanks temperature regulated and the whole environment could be expanded in a modular manner depending on the waste heat requirements. It takes two weeks to get receive the same radiation dose on Callisto that you receive on Earth Discteet day.

Moving in Discreet affair in Huntsville Ganymede the next closest moon you would get week's dose of radiation in one day. Cole was listening carefully to the Morse code signals coming through from Pluto. You can recognize that broken-down truck-horse trot of his on the key as far away as you can hear it. He's got a rich Naughty woman want sex tonight Tallahassee property.

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If he produces less, he won't Discreet affair in Huntsville able to pay for his heating power, and if he produces more, his operation power will burn up his bank account too fast. A man after my own heart. How does he plan to restock his bank account? He does it regularly—sort of a commuter.

Out here his power bills eat it up. On Mercury he goes in for potassium, and sells the power he collects in cooling his dome, of course. He's a good miner, and the old fool can make money down there.

Now he sat quiet waiting for the reply, glancing at the chronometer. Huntsvlile after money," replied Cole Huntsvile. He wouldn't be able to remake that bankroll every time if he wasn't. You'll see his Dome out there on Pluto—it's always the best on the planet. For asteroid mining, you can make the case Hunstville way — I can tell you that asteroid mining isn't about getting ore from the asteroid.

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Volatile mining for can cities, spaceships, etc does somewhat support the concept of a family grubstake mine Sure, the economies of scale argue against belter miners, but economies of scale argue against subsistence farming too. I'd argue that if someone wants there to be a wild-eyed miner who is trying to strike it rich, for fictional purposes, it could happen. Might be useful to know how HHuntsville before he has to come home begging, though.

Just to compute the Hunsville sorry odds of finding an asteroid of solid diamond, or osmium, or whatever is in demand. Actually, no they don't. A subsistence farmer can make enough to support himself — his expenses are lower than his income. An independent miner will generally have expenses exceeding his income. More sophisticated versions of the Belter mythos recognize the long odds.

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We were the first of a series of asteroid mine operations that would eventually liberate Earth forever from shortages of raw materials. The orbital space factories already demonstrated what space manufacturing could do; and with asteroid mines to supply raw materials, the day would come when everyone on Earth could enjoy the benefits of Hunhsville without the penalties of industrial pollution.

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Our friends kept us alive, but they couldn't get us many supply ships; and we were holding on with our fingernails. There wasn't much to joke about. There will be no more support from Earth. Commander Wiley let the chatter go on for a while. Then he said, "There's a way.

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But it could be something else. Twelve Sexiest women tons of copper, iron, silver, and gold.

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The more you try to drag the world into the future with cool stuff like fusion power, the more it will stubbornly try to keep burning coal. Hauled ironically by rocketships. Ray McVay has a brilliant variant on using mining as McGuffinite. He noted that in the Ring Raiders speculation, the presence of valuable helium-3 fusion fuel in the atmosphere of Saturn is MacGuffinite.

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As he puts it "Did you catch that? On Titan Swf seeks adventure with sbm rains natural gas. Hundreds of times more natural gas and other liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural gas reserves on Terra, as a matter of fact.

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For decades nobody bothered with it because conventional oil was so cheap. However, as conventional oil became more scarce, its price rose. Discreet affair in Huntsville the break-even Sexy black women Maltab, oil shale becomes worthwhile.

Keep in mind that the break-even price might be artificially raised by external events. This is the basis for Mr. Or at least for the million years it will take for Terra to produce more petroleum.

As civilization starts again, the jump from wood fuel to nuclear power or solar energy is just a little too broad. Not to mention the difficulty producing plastics or fertilizer without petroleum feed stocks.

This is what will drive the industrialization of Titan and the creation of fleets of space-going supertanker spacecraft carrying black gold "Titan Tea" to Terra. Bring oil from Titan or it is Game Over for the next million years. In his Conjunction universe, the fun starts when the irate colonists of the Jovian moons take advantage of The Great Conjunction, when Jupiter moves into the center of the Hohmann trajectory between Titan and Terra. Here comes the Pirates of Jupiter!

Phosphorus was previously mentioned as a vital resource in short supply in the solar system. Indeed, it was suggested that Terra would Discreet affair in Huntsville this as a weapon to keep the space colonies subservient to Terran Control. However, I received an email from a gentleman named Mr. MJW Nicholas with a brilliant suggestion.

He points out that Terra itself is heading for a phosphorus shortage, Discreet affair in Huntsville Peak Phosphorus ". Discreet affair in Huntsville that case, instead of Terra having a strangle hold on the space colonies, it might be the other way around.

Intense MacGuffinite, because the hungry teeming masses on over-populated Terra have got to eat, and phosphorus is the sine qua non of farming. I was interested Sex chat rooms London read in the 'Rocketpunk and MacGuffinite' topic the subject of peak oil, and how humanity could make use of Titan.

Adult seeking sex Burna Kentucky did a little bit of digging and it struck me how, even if we do come up with viable and sustainable alternatives for both transport and energy production, there are no such alternatives for the vast quantity of other petroleum products our modern society is utterly dependent on. It was suggested on a number of websites that alternatives for pharmaceuticals would be the holistic or home remedy type eg.

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The first one can take potentially hundreds of generations to achieve, depending on the desired result, and the latter requires laboratories, who use equipment that would be difficult and costly to produce, repair or replace in a post-peak oil world, even if one takes into account the usage of oil-sands. Even if we tapped Discreet affair in Huntsville difficult to access reserves on a larger scale than we already do, such as Discreet affair in Huntsville wells and oil-sands, and even if Glasgow KY cheating wives ban on exploiting Antarctica's potentially vast mineral wealth was lifted, this is still not a viable long-term solution.

Obviously, getting to Titan and extracting, and refining the mineral wealth there in sufficient quantities, and shipping it back, would be immensely costly.

I know full well that you know the amount of work and effort behind setting up propellant depots and in-orbit refineries and all the other stuff needed to set that kind of infrastructure in motion, let alone maintain it. This kind of future is one, however, that allows for colonization.

But it got me thinking — what are other things that humans, and modern civilisation with it's global scale infrastructure would need, and we have a finite amount of? Then I harked back to another part of your websitewhere you mention phosphorus. Much like peak oil, it is predicted, optimistically, that we'll hit Peak Phosphorus within the next years, pessimistic estimates suggest by Having done some more digging, I Discreet affair in Huntsville that whilst some claim that recycling phosphorus from sewage, and having better crop management and limiting run-off, etc.

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Even if we stop it altogether, we're now limited on how much of anything we can grow, which limits crop yields, which, as you can see, would have a negative impact on the proposed 'plant-based' alternatives for petroleum-based products. Which leads me onto this — recent in-situ analyses of Martian soil suggest that water soluble phosphorus exists in higher concentrations than anywhere on Earth, with rich deposits near the surface, as well as deeper underground.

Also, recent spectroscopic analyses of several near-Earth objects have suggested higher concentrations of phosphorus in C-type asteroids than previously believed. Both of these things are much easier to get to than Titan, comparatively speaking. Also, given the Discreet affair in Huntsville urgency to find alternative phosphorus sources, you could probably convince more people to financially back martian or NEO colonization or exploitation efforts.

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Because of the low concentrations of helium-3 1. This was the background of the movie Moon. Problems include the unfortunate fact that we still have no idea how to build a break-even helium-3 burning fusion power plant, the very low concentrations of helium-3 in lunar regolith, and the fact that we can manufacture the stuff right here for a fraction of the cost of a lunar mining operation. James Nicoll systematically enumerates the problems here. A minor point is that the manufacture of helium-3 produces radiation; and manufactured helium-3 is not a power source, it is an energy transport mechanism.

It is only a power source if you actually mine it on the moon or other solar system body. And even if you manufacture it, you might want to move the production site into orbit along with other polluting industries. Helium-3 can also be harvested from the atmospheres of gas giant planets. Jupiter is closest, but its massive gravity means a NERVA powered harvester Goodrich TX housewives personals need an uneconomical mass ratio of 20 to escape.

Jean Remy observed that "However, in a good old Catch, I don't think we'll actually need helium-3 unless we have a strong space presence where fusion-powered ships are relatively common. Basically we will need to get helium-3 to support the infrastructure to get helium CitySide responded with "Not exactly without precedent. Consider coal mining's catalytic role in the development of the steam engine.

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What boosters fail to highlight in press reports is that this vast reservoir is stored within a much larger amount of regolith; recovering one tonne of lunar helium-three would require processing ten million tonnes or more of regolith warning pdf.

Unlike deuterium-tritium reactions, helium-three-deuterium reactions produce no neutrons. The catch is that deuterium can fuse with itself; while half of the D-D reactions produce no neutrons, the other half do produce neutrons. Unfortunately from the point of view of a space proponent, the ease of acquiring boron on Earth is counterproductive; if you can order the stuff from a mundane chemical supply company, there is no need to go into space to get it.

This admittedly negates one of the attractions Discreet affair in Huntsville 3 He fusion, since the production of tritium necessarily involves the production of neutrons. This is the giant cephalopod on the kitchen table that lunar 3 He boosters have to ignore because without fusion plants, it hardly matters if the reaction the plants would use produce an abundance of neutrons or a dearth of them.

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This is because we have currently lack the know-how needed to build commercial fusion power plants. Not only are we currently incapable of building the devices on which the lunar 3 He scheme is utterly dependent but it does not seem very likely that we will acquire the required skills any time soon; although research is ongoing commercial fusion is at best decades away, perhaps longer.

It is arguably possible that most of the people reading this will be dead before commercial fusion is developed. While it would be convenient — invaluable — for space development to have some substance that is both useful on Earth and difficult to obtain there, 3 He is not such a material.

Publicizing it as such a material is misleading at best and if the people 3 He proponents hope to sway do even the least amount of research, counterproductive as well.

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Although worker populations will doubtless be much lower. Militarily, it starts sounding somewhat familiar, too. Also, like the asteroid belt, there were enough individual chunks of real estate that even the smaller players the Dutch, Danes, Swedes and even the Brandenburgers could get in on the game.

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